I’m sitting today in the CCIE Routing and Switching Techtorial here at Cisco Live in San Diego. I’ll be update this blog post and tweet about anything ground breaking but it looks to be the exact same presentation as last year.

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8:45AM – Update
The topic of troubleshooting tickets and configuration task dependencies came up. They stated that you could see one ticket that requires a previous ticket to be resolved but not more than one ticket. In the configuration section if you had a PPPoE task that you couldn’t resolve and then later in the IGP section you just configured OSPF over the Ethernet interfaces because you couldn’t get the PPPoE task working you’ll lose points for both tasks. They will not tell you that one ticket or task depends on another.

8:55AM – Update
You will get a single 22″ monitor and they are working on migrating to dual monitors but no time frame.

9:00AM – Update
They do not care what solution you used as long as you meet the requirements. They are concerned with the “state” of the rack and not the solution you implemented in the configuration. This means there can be multiple solutions to resolve a ticket/task and they do not care what solution you used as long as you meet the requirements of the ticket/task and didn’t violate the guidelines.

9:05AM – Update
Do not remove any feature to resolve a task. You must resolve the issue without removing the feature UNLESS the only solution is to remove the feature. I’ll talk to them later one-on-one to get clarification.

9:10AM – Update
5 routers (3825 and 1841s) and 4 switches (3560) in the real lab for the configuration section. The routers are running 12.4(15)T and 12.2(44)SE for the switches.

9:20AM – Update
No dedicated Frame Relay switch but you will still have Frame Relay. This means one of your routers will be a Frame Relay switch.

9:30AM – Update
The students are up in arms over the topic of pinging yourself in regards to Frame Relay. Cisco says they don’t care but admit that the full reachability requirements could led someone into thinking it would be required.

9:45AM – Update
The topics are starting to slow down as they go over example questions.

10:30AM – Update
We went on break. Still not much happening as they are going over sample questions. Here is a sample question:

The ALPS topology and the MATIP architecture implemented in Phase III between R3 and R4. Provide end-to-end transportation of airline protocol traffic across the network between these two routers. Use either the P1024B ALC or P1024C UTS protocol to provide the TCP/IP-based MATIP protocol conversion to the connected to the mainframe on R3′s S0/1/0 interface. Do not use the alps default-circuit command under the alps ascu configuration. Use a clock rate of 48000. 3 Points.

Here is the documentation example: Airline Product Set (ALPS) Configuration Examples

This of course is a joke question ;-)

11:00AM – Update
Now this part is interesting. There are going over a redistribution example. They state they want optimal routing after the redistribution occurs but their solution is wrong in the slide as it seems to have been updated after the printing of the material. Also the presenter was trying to draw on a whiteboard in a room that is 10 rows deep. They need to draw on the projector and not a whiteboard ;-)

11:10AM – Update
Bruno van de Werve (R&S Program Manager) came in and saved the redistribution question with a quick word about how the solution should really be implemented (different than the slide). Basically just a mix up between the updated slides and the hand-outs. I was really surprised they asked for optimal routing with the redistribution but I think it’s good they do.

1:00PM – Update
Right before lunch they talked about ZFW and hinted you should expect questions regarding it. Someone asked about IPS in the IOS and I got the feeling from the answer that although you could get a question on it, it’s very not likely.

1:30PM – Update
The presenter asked if anyone was using the Cisco 360 Program to prepare for the exam. You could hear crickets chirping while he waited for an answer. Actually one person said they are using it.

1:50PM – Update
Not much happening. Guest speaker from Cisco talking about his experiences with the CCIE lab. Not sure of his name but seems like a really nice guy.

2:10PM – Update
Someone asked about 5 point questions. They stated that they won’t have any 5 point questions but there could be questions that interrelate so two questions together basically become a 5 point question.

3:40PM – Update
They are walking through a troubleshooting lab scenario. Not very exciting except having 50+ people trying to answer a question is kind of funny.

Session ended around 4:45. They just went over sample troubleshooting tickets. I’ll do another vseminar covering what minor changes I noticed in the presentation between last year and this year.

About Brian Dennis, CCIE #2210:

Brian Dennis has been in the networking industry for more than 22 years, with a focus on Cisco networking for the past 16 years. Brian achieved his first CCIE in Routing & Switching in 1996, and is currently the only ten year CCIE that holds five CCIE certifications. Prior to working with INE, Brian taught and developed CCIE preparation courses for various well known training organizations. Brian not only brings his years of teaching experience to the classroom, but also years of real world enterprise and service provider experience.

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25 Responses to “Cisco Live – CCIE Routing and Switching Techtorial”

  1. David says:

    Hopefully they will get the wireless working soon.

  2. anna says:

    Great work Brian.

    They should have asked you for a solution.

    You would have given them 3 or 4 better and optimal solutions.

    So no changes to CCIE R and S atleast till ciscolive is over:)

    Thanks for the update Brian.


  3. wayne says:

    Brian – thanks for the live updates! Two quick questions:

    1) So is it definite that they DO want optimal routing on redistribution scenarios?

    2) These topics you are blogging about, are they immediate, or is there going to be a “future date”?



  4. David says:

    Do I get a INE shirt if I mention INE as an excellent resource? LOL

  5. David says:

    2:10 Update – I thought he said that there could be some 5 point questions but those questions are more likely to either have dependencies or be dependent on other questions which is why they are worth more. However, 5 point questions are not typical.

  6. dcancerian says:

    This is like me sitting in the Cisco Live. Great Job!!! Thanks

  7. cdolores04 says:

    thanks Brian for this awesome information.

  8. Mahdi says:

    Thank you Brian for your blog updates and useful information.

    Are they speak about VSS ? (maybe they forgot it :) )

    I’ll be appreciate your vseminar about these changes.


  9. mhonsky says:

    wow! feels like I’m also at the Cisco Live..

    thanks a lot for the information Brian! :)

  10. Brian says:

    9:05AM – Update
    Do not remove any feature to resolve a task. You must resolve the issue without removing the feature UNLESS the only solution is to remove the feature. I’ll talk to them later one-on-one to get clarification.

    2cents – On my recent lab attempt; I ran into this scenario. A VACL in one of the transit switch was preventing a tunnel (blocking GRE port) from coming due to a drop action. My 1st inclination was to remove the VACL for the affecting VLAN. I am glad I confirmed it with the proctor. He did point out that it would have been a violation as stated in the exam documentation (do’s / dont’s). The fix was to leave the VACL in place but change the action to forward. I hope this helps. Thanks for posting these updates.

  11. AC says:

    Hi Brian,

    9:30AM – Update
    “the topic of pinging yourself in regards to Frame Relay”
    Could you please clarify what’s this topic?


  12. Mahdi says:

    Hi Brian

    You said that they will use 1841 routers ?!
    What should I do for OER on this router ? (As you said in vseminar this router has an issue with OER)


  13. Manish Salaria says:

    Hello Brian

    Can you please tell me.. when the recorded version of your Vseminar… regarding the CCIE prep got published…

    Looking forward to your reply.


  14. kennyken says:

    thank goodness the “MATIP” question was a joke question! I was starting to get a bit weiry after that! :)

  15. Alessio says:

    Thanks Brian!
    there were few topics crossing the SP track (i.e. optimal routing) , any reference to it?



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